i think i am sorted now
i booted the box without usb so it wasnt being seen as sda2.
when i then connected it it was correctly recognised as sda1,sda2,sda3 &sda4 in mnt/usb/usb0, mnt/usb/usb1,mnt/usb/usb2 & mnt/usb/usb3.
i then installed
pkt svn 1843 to sda2
bpanther neutrino 4536 to sda3
hdmu 1233 to sda4
so i am now goint to see which one is best foe epg and recording function and also which has option for scart out to 2nd tv
many thanks to santa for helping me get this far
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